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of k.f.c. and pizza hut says sales are slowing in china. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r." >> susie: the fiscal cliff talks are going nowhere. that's the word from john boehner today. the house speaker characterized the negotiations to avoid huge tax increases and spending cuts at a stalemate. the race to solve the fiscal cliff triggered another round of dramatic sound bites from republicans and president obama. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: the president is still pushing to wrap up a deal on the fiscal cliff before christmas and just in case anyone missed that point, he visited a toy factory to urge congress to avoid raising taxes on the middle class. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. a typical middle-class family of four would see their income taxes go up by about $2,200. >> reporter: t psidents oposg to raise taxesy $1.6 trillion, while cutting spending by $400 billion. on top of that, mr. obama asked for $50 billion more for infrastructure spending and $140 billion to extend unemployment insuranc
of trade, as well. yes, an ipad in china gets made and it's value point $50. but it's only about $20 of that that goes to china and the rest goes back to the u.s. we'll get into the dynamics of trade, as well, and how we measure it. we'll also be joined by the ilo director general, as well, guy rider. we'll hear from the head of the world intellectual property organization. so it's a big trade day here from geneva on "worldwide exchange." lots of great things to get into. and by the way, 157 members of the wto, shortly to be 158. kazakhstan today should get the approval, all 157 ambassadors are here. they will get approval later this afternoon. so an ever expanding membership base. >> kazakhstan being just the latest. plenty more from ross straight ahead on the program. in the meantime, we want to check in our how markets are doing. so much attention on italy. in particular, you can see the message broadly speaking this morning is in negative, we're seeing about a four to one outpacing decliners versus vapsers here. the stoxx 600 is down abo about .37%. let's take a look across the t
. >> very nice. >> all right. aside from that, we'll take a look at upbeat economic news out of china. the purchasing managers index rising to 50.9 in december. highest level since august. the surge also helped speculation the chinese government will take additional steps to support its economy. of the 15 times china's up 3%, since '09, s&p that day is up 13 times. almost every time. despite the futures today, is it a good omen for the markets here? >> look, there was a dichotomy in that government. there were people who were concerned about inflation. and there were people who said, listen, we're not growing fast enough. they do have a lot of levers. if they want to grow, i still -- i've been a bull on china. if they want to do 9%, 10%, they have the ability to do it. all they have to do is have a gigantic sewer infrastructure program. >> that's true. there's going to be an economic war conference held soon. it's believed the government will start to release growth forecast at that conference and perhaps unveil some further stimulus measures or tip their hat in terms of whether they
likely comes from the defense sector. at a time when china is rising. you see those planes land on that aircraft carrier this week? the middle east is boiling. i don't know. did we really want that big defense budget cut? i mean, maybe nothing more than the decline in spending is the war in afghanistan winds down. saving about half a trillion dollars over the time. maybe more. the areas where the defense job losses take place they look mighty red to me, at least on the electoral map. yes, you'll have to say goodbye to the fabulous 15% dividend rates and the capital gains rates will rise, not as much. the wealthy will pay what they had to pay percentage-wise during the best period for the stock market in my lifetime, the clinton years. i don't want to pay more tax. you don't, either. if we won't necessarily live happily ever after because of that i think we may be able to take -- i might be able to take this pin off before new year's day. wouldn't that be something? get this pin off before new year's day? that's why i need you to watch "meet the press" on sunday. not just because
states, 7% china, 5% india, negative one in europe. in that environment you want to own a portfolio of multinational companies with dividends, global exposure, it will provide as good of a return as anything else when you have bonds and cash paying so low. as long as you understand you're in the seven, 8% environment, portfolio stocks should be part of that. david: let's talk to a guy that says full speed ahead torpedoes. he thinks it will be better than this year was. saying people are confusing pickups for heart attacks in today's market to all these problems are going to seem like nothing when we come to the big gains of next year. you really think that will bear out, and how do you invest with that kinddof optimistic strategy? >> first of all what we have seen with investor sentiment is contradictory to what we've seen with consumer sentiment and business sentiment. when you see negative investor sentiment is not just in the retail side but also the institutional side creating a great potential opportunity for performance. secondly if you take a look at kicking the can down the
debut of the iphone 5 in china as well. nasdaq down by nearly 1%. it looks like it's sitting around the lows of the day. >> something more to watch. next week is a new week, folks. obviously a very difficult day for everybody in america, but we do appreciate you watching "street signs." cnbc will have continuing coverage of your markets, all your post-close news and, of course, what is going on in newtown, concome our hearts and prayers go out to all those people affected by that. "closing bell" is next. >> i'm bill griffith. welcome to "closing bell." maria will be along here in a few minutes at the new york stock exchange, and we add our sentiments as we continue to update you on the horrific massacre at the connecticut elementary school. our deepest prayers and sympathies to all of the families and others hit by this senseless tragedy. the horror of the story may have muted trading on wall street today, as all priorities are being rearranged in a moment, and we will get you caught up on these markets in just a moment, but first we want to let you know. president obama is set to m
, china will be the number one consumer of the so-called dirty energy, we'll talk about that with an environmentalist, also, we also have our eyes on washington, of course, lawmakers are on vacation, but there still is no deal on taxes. nearly every american is going to have to pay more in just eight days if congress can't reach some kind of an agreement. checking the big board right now, the dow jones industrial average is down about 41 points. again, we've got a half day of trading and we close today at 1 p.m., so that traders can go out on christmas break. light volume, but there are significant movers that we'll talk about in just a second. in particular, apple and jb penpejb-- j.c. penney. we have shibani joshi and adam shapiro as well and first to nicole, j.c. penney, a lot of people worried about retail sales, think it's going to hit companies like j.c. penney hard? guess what? the stock is up 4%, why? >> that's a huge move on a day when the major market average, look the at j.c. penney, it's posted comments from oppenheimer this morning, talking about the fact th
of china-america capital joins us on this jobs friday. tim, we are being told there could be a murky jobs number because of hurricane sandy. what do you think about that? > > i think the market will dismiss a weaker-than-expected number because of hurricane sandy and the distortions that it has and look more toward next month, or january's report, that we will get. so, i think they will let it slide. but it should be weaker than expected. i think that is expected by the market, so it shouldn't be a surprise. > goldman sachs has a call out that we will see a renaissance in commodities. are you bullish on any particular commodities here? > > i am bullish on the agriculturals, for reasons of which the supply and also the growing drought that we had this past year, the continued conditions that make for dry growing season next year as well. so i think from a supply/demand standpoint, yes, i think agricultural. the other thing i like, commodities in general, is when the fed's buying $85 million a month worth of treasuries, i think you are going to have to like commodities. > what is your play
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with modest gains. europe holding onto gains and china up nearly 3% over night as shanghai catches a break. our road map begins with a $20 billion deal. freeport mcmoran getting into the energy business making two acquisitions. plains exploration and mcmoran exploration. >>> concerns over the u.s. economy as adp misses estimates. the blame goes to superstorm sandy. goldman says the party is officially over for gold. >> starbucks at an investors conference will add 1,500 stores in the u.s. over the next five years. wait until you hear what they said about china. >> a big day in media. pandora ceo joins us live later this morning as the stock fell nearly 20% on weak guidance and netflix signs a big exclusive with disney. how much are they having to pay up for that? >>> let's deal with this big deal. as i've been telling you we'll see a lot of big deals -- i was wrong. here we are. freeport mcmoran buying not one but two companies. the combined price if you add it all together gets close to $20 billion. that does include debt. let's go through some of the details. it's somewhat complex. let's
in india and china that all investors need to be aware of is the fact that corporate debt is now really building up to almost unhealthy levels. and i would keep an eye on where corporate debt levels are in companies investing in. >> when i was a corporate analyst in india tracking markets, technology was considered the engine of growth for the country and one of the bright spots for the market. is technology still one of the areas you are tell clients to invest in in india, or what are the sectors you're looking at? >> i think there's two sectors whether you look at india, china, or asia. there's two sectors we like. it's technology, as you said. i think that's one that -- it's a bright gem. you know, it went from, in india, from a bpo outsourcing business and has grown to an innovation business where brands are being developed and real technological gains are being had. the other sector we like is health care. the demand for health care in these markets is just continuing to grow steadily. obviously people are having longer lives, having more disposable income for health care and treat
starbucks in china and the u.s. within two years. "overall, there's going to be coffee available. that'll help you on pricing, so it might be a good time to be expanding." starbucks' expansion plans aren't only meared number of shops. in the last 12 months, its acquired juice company evolution fresh, bakery la boulange, and is about to finalize acquisition of tea company teavanna. tensions remain high in michigan's capitol city, where legislation is about to be passed that could weaken the power of unions. protestors are furious. republican lawmakers moved quickly last week to enact "right to work legislation," allowing workers at unionized companies not to pay dues to the union, which reduces bargaining power right in the uaw's own back yard. the measure has already been approved by both chambers of michigan's legislature, and final enactment could take place tomorrow. republican governor rick snyder supports the legislation. if enacted, it would make michigan the 24th state with right-to-work laws. recent strikes at a california shipping port are over, but concerns of outsourcing p
. >> turmoil in italy. berlusconi throws his hat in the ring. retail sales numbers out of china, hoping the economy is in fact on an upswing. >> apple, enthusiasm. jeffreys trimming its price target to 800 from 900, as apple shares do trade lower in the pre-market. we'll start with mcdonald's, posting better than expected november same-store sales, global comps up 2.4. u.s. same-store sales up 2.5, offered by breakfast offerings, including that cheddar/bacon/onion sandwich, as melissa mentioned. jim? people are saying the u.s. maybe is making a turn here. >> i find mcdonald's is levered to new products, levered to menu technology. they do invent things. my hat's off to janet. they had this number last week. reminds people, again, they've been right down, and up. mcdonald's is one of those things where joe asked me from squawk when we were talking, i said, i think this is a for real term. if they continue to innovate. i may this may not be your cup of tea, burger, but innovation s higher. >> they tried to sell it to consumers as opposed to their extra value menu, which is a little bit hi
. china state picc group raising more than $3 billion. it's the territory's biggest ipo in into years. still to come, didn't have to price it toward the bottom of the indicative range, maybe a sign that the appetite from the listings remains week. and managing liquidities also a priority. this week the pboc switched back to pumping money into the banking system after withdrawing more than $40 billion over the last month. reports suggest possible $1.8 billion is a moderate amount compared to what the pboc is used to putting in. andrew, very strong session yesterday for shanghai. flat today. after a period of underperformance, will it turn around or not going into 2013? >> well, i think in the recent couple of weeks actually, we're seeing quite positive economic data coming out of china. pmi is improving. and consumer sentiment is the highest. and for the past five months. but this have not translated into a more robust market. this is because for the past two quarters, there is all bad news. so there was kind of negative feedback loops that caused the market to be oversold. and then it
.s. has slapped duties on wind turbine towers on china on price its says were unfairly cheap. this comes as washington welcomes a high-level chinese delegation led by the vice premier. his team is in the u.s. to talk trade and economy. he's expected to meet with u.s. treasury secretary tim geithner tomorrow. wang is the first official from the new leadership team to visit with the u.s. for more on the impact and implications of this, let's speak with frank ching, adjunct associate professor at the chinese university of hong kong. frank, hi. the first news that we're getting out of this appears to be more import duties s. this going to be the theme of u.s./china relations, or do you expect these meetings to be more of a thaw? >> well, i think that these are the first meetings since the new leadership in china was installed. and since president obama saw -- well, won second term. i think both sides want to make use of this occasion to improve their relationship. so this joint annual meeting is a platform, and i think that they will probably be able to achieve some progress on issues of con
it will be a buying opportunity, we like companies that have good market share globally especially if china starts to grow a little bit and we like the european companies that were beaten down particularly the large caps, that we will take advantage of the emerging market, china moving up. we like anything associated with housing and they have been performing very well even on days when the market has been selling off and you can see the strength of their but the warning is if we go off of this, everything is subject to more sell-offs. perhaps more bargain hunting. adam: fiscal cliff negotiations are moving as deadly as rush-hourrtraffic in boston which can be a nightmare. you have a good new year. let's hope they get a deal done. all the best to you. >> thank you. adam: it is a quarter till time to check stocks again. every 15 minutes we doing here. lauren simonetti will do that at the stock exchange. >> volume is light but traders -- we saw a triple digit loss for the blue chip average down 89 points, declined across the board, volume decisively lower, the margin between gaining and losing stock
the president takes the airways, but we have to focus on apple. what went wrong in apple in china. where are they huge crowds of people tripping over themselves to get the new iphone five? after all, 300,000 reorders. 300,000. it sounds like a lot, but there are some are calling this launch this news, even a dad. will this further erode the stock which has plummeted 28% since that september? we decided to go beyond this. of the chinese over it? some months, the apple turnout, not at all what it was cracked up to be. investors are voting with their wallets. apple shares are down. just a couple of percentage points. important to know this is trading in a nine month low. add another 4 percent today, the negative comments adding to the selling pressure. the firm cutting its 2013 estimates and lowering its price target. we know that maybe the huge ones are not so huge in china because apple instituted an online reservation system. folks, let's not ignore it. the allies did not even come close to this, the launch of the iphone four in the u.s. when people waited all night long, lines wrapped a
by apple in california, assembled in china. all apple products are made in china. that's about to change. ceo tim cook announced starting next year one line of computers will be designed and built in the usa. >> i think it's a big surprise. >> reporter: cnet says with one line of macs and not the iphone or ipad, apple is not taking a huge risk. >> for apple to say this is something they want to do that they want to manufacture here in the united states, it's a big deal. it's a big differentiate tore for this company. >> reporter: this is the image that apple likes to show. that has been tarnished by sweat shop conditions at the chinese factories. nets were installed outside the dormitories run by apple contractor to prevent suicides after several contract workers jumped to their deaths. after widespread media reports apple began to improve conditions. >> they love the computers but we were saying i don't know, it's not conscious consumerism which is what we're looking at now. where is your money going. what is it supporting? >> reporter: made in america may be an emerging trend. apple is
stories of the year. and, why china set up shop in greece at the height of the euro crisis. but first, this "in the know" message. the euro crisis continued to remain a major concern for investors throughout the course of 2012. at the center of it all, greece. the country grappled with a need for bailouts with strings attached in the form of severe budget cuts that sparked protests from the people. however, the financial crisis in europe is providing an opportunity for china. earlier this year, we heard from new york times reporter liz alderman on a chinese shipping company that is making waves in greece. > > how successful has this shipping company, known as cosco, been so far in greece? > > it's an interesting story. this chinese basically state- run shipping company came in here about three years ago in a $500 million deal that ever since then has been a model for the country, because what they did is they bought half of piraeus port, which is an ancient port in greece and one of the most important ports in the southern mediterranean. what they did was they basically took an operat
that you or some see as much as a 50% gain on, and that's a whole country, china. china's been beaten down so much over the past year, that some people are expecting a 50% rally. what do you think about china investment right now? >> i'll tell you, ddve, one thing about china that we noticed is every since the national congress went by them, there was not a stimulus coming from them, the stock market got hammered, even though the economic data gets better. they are one of the worst emerging markets so far year to date. with the lower chains of stimulus, investors pull out. money going into is the chinese shares. what are the shares? the hong kong proxy for the market. foreign investors, like hedge funds, short the market, and they are covering shorts now. carson black is a short seller bear own china and he covered all the chinese shorts. right now, there's a noted technician out there in the market, tom demark, a lot of the faster hedge funds listen to him. he said yesterday, you know what? there's a good chance of a 50% jump in shanghai composite. david: where do you put your money? >> t
a big rally in china extending one of its biggest rallies in three years. we have a mixed bag in europe with italy up by about .2 of 1%. >> we'll do our best to keep focused on the business day. we'll be following the tragic shooting in connecticut, of course. the new york stock exchange will hold a moment of silence to honor the victims in the next few moments, and we'll be looking at the president's call for meaningful action and the politics of gun control. >> let's get to a road map for this morning. it starts with apple. under pressure once again. even dipping below $500 a share at some point this morning. shares will remain range bound near term. iphone 5 sales and cannibalization among the region. >> other concessions from the gop, the speaker proposing tax hikes for millionaires. could this be the tipping point. moving the talks beyond deadlock. >> a big week for earnings. yes, earnings. fedex, research in motion among the companies reporting. so finally maybe we'll be talking about fundamentals in the stock market more than just the cliff. we've got to talk about apple reversin
up personal computer sector? >> manufacturing data out of china. not bad. 50.6. that's the highest in seven months. although shanghai again trades lower even europe's pmi improves a touch in november. first up, we're one month away from the fiscal cliff and so far the white house and congressional republicans are still in disagreement over how to reduce the deficit and avoid a raft of tax hikes and spending cuts. yesterday our own jim cramer and maria bartiromo were on "meet the press" and cramer had a message for fellow panelists and father of the anti-tax pledge, grover norquist. >> most ceos are republican. they're on board. they're not on board with you. they're not on board with you because they fear your view. they think you do not favor going -- you favor going over the cliff. that's what they think. they think that you favor -- >> just for the record since we're on tv. that's silly if they think that they shouldn't be ceos. >> it doesn't really matter. that's what they think. >> i want you to walk me up to that moment. >> behind the record. i like that too. >> i'm stuck. li
a million reasons, well, it's a nokia phone, well, it's china. ipad miniis available. this is a stock that's so widely owned. it reminds me of sirius satellite. every doctor, every dentist owns apple. they don't know the price per share, they just know it is the proxy for the market. >> they just accelerated dividends. but i think we're talking now 150 companies in some fashion have accelerated or put forward a special dividend. you put forward a special market share, china is 76, with the market share at least. >> is it a disappointment that apple did not pay a special dividend? is that part of this? >> there was some of that. >> there was some expectation? not that they ever gave any voice to it. they never said a word about it. >> true. >> look, it is widely owned if the stock were -- it's obviously, here's the stock that went from 70 to 50, maybe it goes to 48, 45. everybody who doesn't know what apple is, other than the fact that they use an imac or iphone are selling it. and, look, if you're a hedge fund manager you went from thinking i have to own it, or i have to short it. . >> in
. last, but certainly not least, i think you could see the new leadership team in china come more aggressive reform program than people are expecting. >> all right. michael, good to have you. >> thank you so much. >> michael jones of riverfront. >> financials looking to continue their upward momentum from yesterday when both bank of america and citi hit new 52-week highs. independent research analyst meredith whitney has turned bullish on financials, too. whitney citing several factors including her view that banks are more than adequately capitalized. and guys, the weakest position banks from the crisis are now more than adequately capitalized, thus what they earn going forward, whatever that is, will now be theirs to employ with far greater discretion than has been the case in the past. that's the crux of her note. >> it needs to be listened to. i think we make a little bit much of meredith whitney, to be frank. it's been a controversial call on municipal bonds a couple of years ago that has not been proven correct. she might argue with that, but i think that's in the facts. you
't an accord in congress. >> we will always have china. manufacturing pmi data from last night is the best in 21 months. can we finally say the chinese economy has been stabilized. >> but of course, we start in washington. as you know, congress comes back today. the house gaveling into session now with legislative business starting at 10:00 a.m. the senate returns at 11:00 a.m. eastern. there are only a few hours left to get a deal done. eamon? >> you're already hearing people talk the way they talk on new year's day. a lot of people wish they could go back in time and do things differently. that's the way people are talking in washington about this fiscal cliff. feeling as if this thing suddenly got off the rails. take a listen to mitch mcconnell last night talking about the pace of the negotiations here and the frustration that he's experienced going through all of this over the weekend. take a listen. >> now, i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. like we all know we're running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. we need to protect the american
powerhouse, apple, famous for its giant manufacturing operations in china, has promised to do something they have not done in nearly 20 years. build some apple computers right here in the united states. and abc's david muir, captain of our made in america team, is here with the latest. >> reporter: diane, as you know, for nearly three decades, apple made its computers in the u.s. tonight, word one of those lines will bear those three words we've been talking so much about here. made in america. tonight, that bold announcement from apple. ceo tim cook now says some of apple's mac computers will never year carry those three words, made in america. cook telling bloomberg business week that the company plans to spend 1$100 millioner in year t move production from the mac line from china back here to the u.s. it was this year, when asked about the factories they used to have here in america that tim cook talked about the possibility of bringing manufacturing back. >> there is some manufacturing revival in the u.s. will there be an apple product ever made again in the united states? >> i want
than china. it is a very significant number. we do it better and less expensively. cheryl: a report saying it would be a good thing for this country if we begin to export natural gas. it would be good for the u.s. economy. some, especially in washington, saying it would be a bad thing. it would be a job killer. >> it is hard to me to figure that out. i think we have to find a balance between exports and the cheap fuel in the united states which will cause that energy less dependence. cheryl: it would be nice to see some job creation. janet, of course, we will have you back in just a little bit. "the closing bell" will be ringing 51 minutes from now. natural gas exports may be poised for takeoff. it may have some unintended consequences. find out why dow chemical chief andrew liveris believes the gas surge is a job killer. wait until you hear what he has to say about dividends before year end. his one-on-one with liz claman is coming up. keep it right here. ♪ streamline the process? at fidelity, we it by merging two toolinto one, combining your customized char with leading-edge an
off. reason for that is we look at china. china's economy is turning the corner. that's also helping with what you folks talked about earlier in the crude oil. see how it plays out. even though it's a light volume week as far as trading -- ashley: still, though, a downward trend with the chart. what's the story with silver? >> well, you saw silver pull back with gold. normally, they run, and now what we're seeing is there's a little bit more demand. china's picking up the pace a little. we are seeing silver that's up, what, 24 cents as of today? not a bad move from a one day, especially in the light volume. ashley: if we get it done on the fiscal cliff, will we see a selloff in metals? >> i don't believe that we will. europe right now is the safe haven. there's no negative news. by any means, they are not done with all that's going on over there. everything is focused here on the u.s. and the fiscal cliff, and until that is resolved, if it gets resolved, the traders are pulling back, volatility's high, and there's going to be very thin volume in the markets. it's not going to take mu
on "varney & company," apple says it sold a record 2 million 3 c1 iphone 5's this weekend in china. still, one citigroup analyst down grades the stock and says it's got a much lower price target. there are also rumblings about orders for its products this christmas. all right, so, nicole, did we break below 500 bucks this morning? >> we did. we broke down on apple shares below $500 for the first time since february. but in that same breath, i can talk about the fact that their iphone sales over in china broke records on the rollout. stuart: okay, but right now, i'm seeing it expected to open around $510 a share. >> right. stuart: but i did see it pre-market at 499. just for a brief spell so we broke below very briefly and now we've broken back up again. >> and you have that citigroup downgrade which just piles on to the other analysts who have lowered their expectations on apple. stuart: and there's a switch. all right. john boehner bends and makes the president an offer and it includes higher tax rates on the rich. boehner's proposal, higher rates on incomes over a million dollars a year
. >>> apple downgraded on iphone 5 fears. but what fears? sales of the phones soaring in china over the weekend. 2 million of them sold in the first three days of its launch there. so are fears about apple overblown? president obama says he will use whatever power he has to prevent another massacre like the one in newtown, connecticut. what can be done, if politics is the art of the possible? where does the possible reside in america? we talk solutions today on "power lunch." my partner, sue herera, sue? >> let's look at where major averages sit right now. just a second ago, we were up 80 point on the dow. we are close to the highs of this session so far. nasdaq composite is up 29 on the trading session and s&p 45u7b is up 13. it is that optimism over the fiscal cliff which increased over the weekend after house speaker boehner edged ever closer to president obama's position. indeed, the speaker met with the president at the white house this morning. eamon javers is at the white house. eamon? >> previous meetings between the president and speaker had been telegraphed a little bit. t
heading into the new year they will be demand owning the iphone in particular is a status symbol in china. >> there were some concerns when the iphone 5 came out on friday, the numbers over the weekend were over 2 million, which is spectacular. so one of the things i am noticing here in this negative news cycle is that everything is interpreted negatively. why were there no lines in china? a lot of the iphone 5 ordering it online. lori: when do you expect them to retrace the all-time high? >> i see no reason we can't see that the next three to four months. lori: i have to challenge you, samsung galaxy phone is very popular, microsoft property, windows 7 has a renewed impact, the new app store having the itunes and leadership, tim cook and the whole maps issue is a credit debacle. >> the only competitor out there is samsung that matters. lori: what about tim cook and not a lot of interest in the pipeline? >> tim cook has led the company for several years. so now it is all on his shoulders. when i think about new products, apple tv on the horizon, apple will dominate the tv market over th
saw that. i do think one thing we can certainly say given that china seems to be stabilizing a bit, we can all discuss europe. greek situation. maybe it's off the front pages for a while. and so if we assume that the jobs picture in the u.s. is not bad, let's assume not bad, it puts even more of a focus on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one would assume in terms of good or bad for the market, for the economy. >> kernen had a good point. does strength mean the economy could handle a cliff or is it so good you wouldn't want to tamper -- >> if i wanted to create a recession, what would i do? i would raise everybody's rates. i would cut the unemployment benefit. just trying to think of a theory of how i could cause a recession. i would cut back government spending quickly. >> i would raise interest rates to 20%. >> bernanke ought to join the -- look, i think this is what's going to happen. i think it's 50-50 we get a deal. no vacation. no legislation, no vacation. i think that when people get their paycheck at the end of january, they are going to be sho
about china electric demand being strong. remember, they make coal machinery, depending upon how much electric demand there is in china, his orders go up. that's why i think people are surprised the stock eel not down big, given his concerns throughout the near term. >> comments, the buybacks continue. >> now, i begin to say, wait a second. one buyback, maybe -- too much coincidence here. you have the news out of joint global. i think people are starting to say this fourth quarter's an inflection point for china. less worried about inflation, more worried about pro-growth. cummins is a uniquely chinese story. so many truck engines go there. let's keep track of this. >> a lot of people say if you've got gdp growing again and inflation as low as it is, that is the sweet spot, that is where you always want to be. >> india came out with global stuff. coal, i know, we're only used to seeing coal phased out in this country. they love coal in china. i don't want to make a judgment on whether that's -- but they are huge coal plant builders there. huge. >> an important one to watch. we'll talk
market, the shanghai composite in china, closed well below the markets opened but here are some names posting solid gains when it comes to the steel world. optimism on china coming back giving the steel sector boost. prices for iron ore hitting a decent high lately, not a bad move, translating to a lot of names in this space for a while it looked like the economy was weakening and now it is coming back. dave: we want to let you know we will throughout this hour ridge you -- give the regular updates on a horrendous shooting in connecticut. that is coming throughout the hour. liz: how about alternative investment? putting money behind a pop culture icon. we are looking at other ways to make money than stocks but what about judy garland? the rights to her tv show are up for auction. did you know the rights and royalties of an investment can return 8% to 11% on average? better than a kick in the head. we have the man who is selling rights that he bought from judy garland's former husband. dave: today is the deadline for states to say if they will set up their own health care exchanges or
let's go to another name that you say is a great u.s. play, on china stabilizing and growing. >> yes, and that's starbucks. starbucks a great american company. everybody needs a good cup of coffee. in china there is only one starbucks for every 1.9 inhabitants, can you believe that when we have one basically on every corner? [laughter] so there's tremendous opportunity there. you've got the tea growers in china, a lot of them are now switching to coffee because of starbucks, so that's a double play for you. liz: wait until they find out what a frappucino tastes like. >> oh, look out, china. liz: two pharma companies, what do you think are the big names here because we're all getting older, and we all need new medicine. >> we're going to be buying a lot of pfizer especially and bristol-myers. those are the two picks we have. pfizer is around 24, $25 a share, bristol-myers about 31. and they have in common a new blood-clotting drug, and everyone's very, very excited about that. bristol-myers developed it, and pfizer will be marketing it. so we hi there's huge opportunity -- we think th
other] >> we don't live in china. >> we have this conversation. neil: the bottom line is that it will be part of this wave. what do you fear? you say if it doesn't happen -- >> i think unions are dead and gone. >> let's hope they're not done. >> when we get people that are more nonunion, they have to go. neil: were your thoughts on this? [laughter] [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> units are not. make your point. >> i believe that workers have the right to organize and i also believe employers have the right to hire nonunion workers. i think that is how most americans feel. they should have the choice to be in a union. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> why are they not taking that choice? neil: .99% union? remark. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> allall right, i wish i had me time. neil: when we come back, think patriot act. find out why the government may already be invading your pipers. they may someday lock you up for a crime that you weren't even thinking of committing. this is like a lawsuit that rick
of the biggest oil companies to them. china doesn't just get access to the canadian oil fields. the chinese get direct access to choose reserves in our own back yard in the gulf of mexico. it still needs approval from washington, but the chinese will control a major north american oil company. lou dobbs is with us now. i cannot imagine that you think this is a good idea. lou: is a terrible idea if it's not altered. as you know, the oil and the immense reserves, it will likely begin doing so over the years ahead. it is a big deal for the chinese. they also have control just about 116 million barrels of oil in the gulf of mexico, primarily fields off the coast of louisiana. those are under u.s. jurisdiction. the trick here is the chinese offshore oil company, the chinese national offshore oil company, they have run into this before. it was back in 2005 when they tried, as you probably recall, they ran into all sorts of issues due to better than other technology and resources held and it was locked. this time, i think it is -- it is very important that significant authorizations are made to this d
at, given the outlook and not just the u.s. consumer, but now you talk about sales in china just started, there's a lot of catalyst and the stock is cheap. david: despite your pessimism of what might happen in the economy, you're optimistic about what's happening with homebuilders. yowe think this is a real burste are seeing, one that will last? >> i agree, pointed homebuilders enjoying a nice ride and you are seeing that, it was priced into the market probably two quarters ago, but it will continue and i think that part of the economy will help out over the homebuilders themselves but investors in the market. david: continued for how long? >> my sense is throughout 2013. you can really count on this resurgence from the home building sector. lori: gary, remaining time, what is your preferred asset allocation? >> right now we are allocating model the balanced portfolio to be about 43% equities split equally between domestic and foreign. we're about 15% traditional bonds, 30% non-traditional bonds. and we're about 10% of real assets, energy, precious metals. about 2% cash. lori: gr
to stay a whole day and have programs that will allow them to be competitive with children in china and india, if you need that to be a real situation in america for us to be competitive ten years from now when we're not in a recession, you have to look at that and say this is not smart policy for the long term. and whatever we have to do to protect and insulate those children, we do that. now, how do we do that, you know, they were talking about before with food stamps, that's the hammock versus safety net discussion. we don't want it to be a hammock for people where people just lounge around and expect to get food stamps forever but you need a safety net when the bottom falls out and the bottom has fallen out. at this point, it is very cool to be able to look -- not cool, kind of cruel, even, to be able to look at what people can buy, what they can get and whether or not that is sufficient. >> i think cory booker's doing a great thing. just having it on the desk here was fascinating, what you actually buy and realize you try to buy it in new york, for example, could cost you up to
in china are strong. when on friday some reports suggests otherwise. >> john ford is here now with the story. >> two conflicting story lines on apple collided today. one has apple ordering fewer iphone 5 parts which has a less than stellar start to 2013. the other is suggesting demand remains strong in apple's most crucial market for the iphone. the question here is are we at the beginning of a radical global slowdown for the iphone and ipad? half a dozen analysts believe to think so. believing that the iphone 5 parts have cut their price targets in recent days. the idea is that apple is ordering fewer parts for the months after the holidays. the problem with this theory though, demand still looks strong for the iphone 5 given the launch where apple couldn't make phones fast enough. and china did 2 million iphone 5s. europe is week. but with demands elsewhere looking healthy, some numbers at least seem to be going apple's way. the question is whether samsung and amazon are meaningfully zapping the apple products. >> all right, jan. thanks so much. >> we've got both sides of th
? not that long ago we heard very smart short sellers write off both china and europe it was on a year ago that italy and greece would be following in disaster. of course, they subsequently turned out to be the single best places to invest for fixed income in the world. not only did the sky not fall, but you had to do some serious buying to keep up with the others around the world. we have been buying an etf for my travel trust. was there a more uniform agreement than the idea that the euro had to die and the weaker countries were going into a fre depression? we know a ton of countries that could do very well in a low-growth environment. a year ago all the wise guys were telling us to avoid china because it was a house of cards. the course only grew more uniform with the chinese market falling to multiyear lows. but in the last few weeks, china's economy bottomed during the summer as they were focused way too much on beating inflation. now it's become the best performer in the world, and i don't think you've missed the move which is why my trust has been buying an etf that mimics china. fi
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